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		<title>Comment on Scientists Visit The Creation Museum by Naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is important to allow people to believe what they want to believe in.  I am a scientist (Geologist) myself who has a strong faith in God and I know that there is more to life than science alone.  I have personally witnessed events that could not be explained by science and my faith really does benefit me in my daily life.

Whether you believe or not, why not just let people choose for themselves!

Thank you,

Naomi

&lt;blockquote&gt;Um, Naomi, where is anyone being forced to NOT believe, hmm? Name one? So then, where is this &quot;allow people to believe what they want to believe in&quot; nonsense coming from?

People can and do believe whatever they want and facts and evidence don&#039;t really count for much in general. The sociological evidence tells us that beliefs that are socially and personally pleasing take priority over hard facts and evidence by a wide margin.

If anyone is prevented from believing what they want, it would be non-believers who are often punished for not being part of organized religion. They still get to &quot;believe what they want&quot; of course, but they often pay a high price for it.

I agree, let people choose! But it must be an INFORMED choice. Give them real information, not made-up stories spoken as if they were truth. And I&#039;m not talking about your personal faith here but the creationist nonsense referenced in the article.

Come on, Adam and Eve riding dinosaurs? Really, doc? Seriously, doctor to doctor (you=geology/me=theology) even I never taught or accepted that nonsense. Furthermore, because I&#039;m old I can tell you that young earth creationism was not part of 20th century mainstream Christianity until very recently (more the realm of small wacky fundamentalist cults). I did not learn it in seminary and would not even consider teaching it to schoolchildren.

I don&#039;t have a problem with someone believing in God ..well, unless you think God is telling you to kill people or something. Otherwise, it&#039;s fine. However, I DO object to dogmatic religious interpretations of the world being taught along side actual evidence as if they were equal if not superior.

The church has faced many choices over the centuries: Organized religion opposed the idea of a round earth, they fought viciously against the outrageous notion that the earth revolves around the sun and mainstream religion even opposed antibiotics.  All of these things, like creationism, stem from a possible interpretation of the Bible.

You still have active flat-Earth people who start with a religious premise based on the Bible and then try to &quot;prove&quot; their claims by attempting to criticize and question actual science. Like creationists they demand that school children should be taught their flat earth theory alongside actual science so that they can &quot;decide for themselves.&quot;  They are no different than the young earth creationists cited in the article EXCEPT that hardly anyone takes them seriously. However both doctrines are equally foolish.

So when you say, Naomi, &quot;why not just let people choose for themselves&quot; I say AMEN! But in order to make a choice, people need REAL information backed up with actual facts, not stories, legends and Bible proof-texting.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is important to allow people to believe what they want to believe in.  I am a scientist (Geologist) myself who has a strong faith in God and I know that there is more to life than science alone.  I have personally witnessed events that could not be explained by science and my faith really does benefit me in my daily life.</p>
<p>Whether you believe or not, why not just let people choose for themselves!</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Naomi</p>
<blockquote><p>Um, Naomi, where is anyone being forced to NOT believe, hmm? Name one? So then, where is this &#8220;allow people to believe what they want to believe in&#8221; nonsense coming from?</p>
<p>People can and do believe whatever they want and facts and evidence don&#8217;t really count for much in general. The sociological evidence tells us that beliefs that are socially and personally pleasing take priority over hard facts and evidence by a wide margin.</p>
<p>If anyone is prevented from believing what they want, it would be non-believers who are often punished for not being part of organized religion. They still get to &#8220;believe what they want&#8221; of course, but they often pay a high price for it.</p>
<p>I agree, let people choose! But it must be an INFORMED choice. Give them real information, not made-up stories spoken as if they were truth. And I&#8217;m not talking about your personal faith here but the creationist nonsense referenced in the article.</p>
<p>Come on, Adam and Eve riding dinosaurs? Really, doc? Seriously, doctor to doctor (you=geology/me=theology) even I never taught or accepted that nonsense. Furthermore, because I&#8217;m old I can tell you that young earth creationism was not part of 20th century mainstream Christianity until very recently (more the realm of small wacky fundamentalist cults). I did not learn it in seminary and would not even consider teaching it to schoolchildren.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with someone believing in God ..well, unless you think God is telling you to kill people or something. Otherwise, it&#8217;s fine. However, I DO object to dogmatic religious interpretations of the world being taught along side actual evidence as if they were equal if not superior.</p>
<p>The church has faced many choices over the centuries: Organized religion opposed the idea of a round earth, they fought viciously against the outrageous notion that the earth revolves around the sun and mainstream religion even opposed antibiotics.  All of these things, like creationism, stem from a possible interpretation of the Bible.</p>
<p>You still have active flat-Earth people who start with a religious premise based on the Bible and then try to &#8220;prove&#8221; their claims by attempting to criticize and question actual science. Like creationists they demand that school children should be taught their flat earth theory alongside actual science so that they can &#8220;decide for themselves.&#8221;  They are no different than the young earth creationists cited in the article EXCEPT that hardly anyone takes them seriously. However both doctrines are equally foolish.</p>
<p>So when you say, Naomi, &#8220;why not just let people choose for themselves&#8221; I say AMEN! But in order to make a choice, people need REAL information backed up with actual facts, not stories, legends and Bible proof-texting.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Christianity Kills Kids. Really. And They A Proud of It. by Deadly Furby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadly Furby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 23:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s more that religious nuts have killed

www.childrenshealthcare.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s more that religious nuts have killed</p>
<p><a href="http://www.childrenshealthcare.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.childrenshealthcare.org/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Church Attendance Dictates Views on Torture by rocky</title>
		<link>http://realityhackers.net/160/church-attendance-dictates-views-on-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 22:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Water boarding is straight out of the Spanish Inquisition. And the Vatican endorsed Hitler and his methods of torture. So is it any wonder that Christians are in love with torture and genocide? When alone I find Christians don&#039;t give a fuck about Dufar, Zimbabwe, or any Muslim country. I freely admit I despise all, every, and collectively all religions...well maybe Zeus and his gang were OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Water boarding is straight out of the Spanish Inquisition. And the Vatican endorsed Hitler and his methods of torture. So is it any wonder that Christians are in love with torture and genocide? When alone I find Christians don&#8217;t give a fuck about Dufar, Zimbabwe, or any Muslim country. I freely admit I despise all, every, and collectively all religions&#8230;well maybe Zeus and his gang were OK.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dangers of The New Atheism by rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dichotomy is funnier than hell..oops. His book is of vital importance and all others, Dawkins Harris, Hitchins, etc etc. are not important. How utterly crass and hubris.
Here is what scares me:
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4543.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dichotomy is funnier than hell..oops. His book is of vital importance and all others, Dawkins Harris, Hitchins, etc etc. are not important. How utterly crass and hubris.<br />
Here is what scares me:<br />
<a href="http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4543.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4543.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Another Pastor Predicts Disaster &#8230;Yawn by rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drum roll please....The foolish are wising up. Churches are is a decline and those that are becoming non-believers are gaining in popularity.Here is a link,can you fix..http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29585222/?GT1=43001</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drum roll please&#8230;.The foolish are wising up. Churches are is a decline and those that are becoming non-believers are gaining in popularity.Here is a link,can you fix..http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29585222/?GT1=43001</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Secret Jihad Against Science by rocky</title>
		<link>http://realityhackers.net/130/a-secret-jihad-against-science/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My worry is of the pact that FEMA and Homeland security have with the pastors:&quot;A large church organization has refused to divulge how many of its pastors are on the FEMA payroll, after a member expressed concerns about religious leaders being used to condition their congregation to accept the declaration of martial law.&quot;
With Interment Camps being built on Army bases here, in the USA by KBR and the NORCOM army of at least 20,000 troops training to quell any riots or uprising of the citizens, all being kept secret by the churches.
We do live in interesting times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My worry is of the pact that FEMA and Homeland security have with the pastors:&#8221;A large church organization has refused to divulge how many of its pastors are on the FEMA payroll, after a member expressed concerns about religious leaders being used to condition their congregation to accept the declaration of martial law.&#8221;<br />
With Interment Camps being built on Army bases here, in the USA by KBR and the NORCOM army of at least 20,000 troops training to quell any riots or uprising of the citizens, all being kept secret by the churches.<br />
We do live in interesting times.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Jesus Doesn&#8217;t Have time For REAL Problems by rocky</title>
		<link>http://realityhackers.net/129/why-jesus-doesnt-have-time-for-real-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s news is about the Crystal Cathedral suicide victim. Rev shuller&#039;s house of shame is mired in debt and now a man commits suicide while a Canadian group were being told of shuller&#039;s suicide prevention services.
Maybe the blood on the cross will depict a sign of jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s news is about the Crystal Cathedral suicide victim. Rev shuller&#8217;s house of shame is mired in debt and now a man commits suicide while a Canadian group were being told of shuller&#8217;s suicide prevention services.<br />
Maybe the blood on the cross will depict a sign of jesus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Biological Religion by rocky</title>
		<link>http://realityhackers.net/116/biological-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The evidence includes studies of babies and children which have shown the brain is programmed to think of the mind as being separate from the body.&quot;
That word mind is so ambiguous. The dictionary defines mind as: &quot; (in a human or other conscious being) the element, part, substance, or process that reasons, thinks, feels, wills, perceives, judges, etc.: the processes of the human mind.&quot; Somewhere imagination is missing in this equation and that is what religion is all about. Make believe and congers of fictitious illusions for a self gain is true religion in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The evidence includes studies of babies and children which have shown the brain is programmed to think of the mind as being separate from the body.&#8221;<br />
That word mind is so ambiguous. The dictionary defines mind as: &#8221; (in a human or other conscious being) the element, part, substance, or process that reasons, thinks, feels, wills, perceives, judges, etc.: the processes of the human mind.&#8221; Somewhere imagination is missing in this equation and that is what religion is all about. Make believe and congers of fictitious illusions for a self gain is true religion in action.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekend &#8216;Morons in Intellectual Masks&#8217; Edition by rocky</title>
		<link>http://realityhackers.net/112/weekend-morons-reality-corrected/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from Dawkins being crucified by the dysfunctional nuts, this is a day to celebrate, for this is Darwin&#039;s birthday. 200 years ago &quot;Origin of Species&quot;, Darwin was born. 
Once one of the nation&#039;s most popular televangelists, the Rev. Robert H. Schuller is watching his life&#039;s work crumble. It seems he and his son have had a falling out and the Crystal Cathedral church is in financial trouble. The fools that helped support the nutty reverend are disappointed in the church and are hanging onto their money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from Dawkins being crucified by the dysfunctional nuts, this is a day to celebrate, for this is Darwin&#8217;s birthday. 200 years ago &#8220;Origin of Species&#8221;, Darwin was born.<br />
Once one of the nation&#8217;s most popular televangelists, the Rev. Robert H. Schuller is watching his life&#8217;s work crumble. It seems he and his son have had a falling out and the Crystal Cathedral church is in financial trouble. The fools that helped support the nutty reverend are disappointed in the church and are hanging onto their money.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christianity Kills Kids. Really. And They A Proud of It. by rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nothing odd about this. The christian science church has advocated for years that Doctoring in unnecessary. So now the snake charring believers are doing the same thing. Crazys will do crazy things and alas, the children will pay for the sins of their parents...for once the bible might have something right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nothing odd about this. The christian science church has advocated for years that Doctoring in unnecessary. So now the snake charring believers are doing the same thing. Crazys will do crazy things and alas, the children will pay for the sins of their parents&#8230;for once the bible might have something right.</p>
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